tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post1297273017335750864..comments2024-03-05T11:36:50.299-05:00Comments on Stand and Deliver: Autonomy, beneficence, and non-maleficanceRixahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07908864785513937876noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-15739581646578530662011-06-10T19:25:21.215-04:002011-06-10T19:25:21.215-04:00It is funny but I actually disagree with Dr. Kotas...It is funny but I actually disagree with Dr. Kotaska. Doctors need to be doctors, highly trained in problems and trusted to offer the best of their very specific education and training. No wonder the midwives gave a standing ovation, he simply described implementing the midwifery model of care to the obstetrical field. Whilst this may sound great on first hearing, really it is creating a dangerous rock and hard place position for obstetricians and the mothers they treat. <br /><br />I should have prefaced my comment by stating that "I" believe healthy pregnant women and natural birth have no place in the hospital. Women need to remember their power, strength and ability to take back their births. We need less obstetricians; hospital based and nurse midwives and more of their traditional, spiritual and what I call "cross culturally conscious" counterparts. We need to spend more time looking at the ways we can prevent and avoid complications rather than offering more choice in treating them. <br /><br />This reduced amount of hospital based birth professionals would only take care of the truly and ever-reducing number of pregnancies requiring medical attention. In this situation, like all the other medical problems, mothers would actually be able to place their trust in the medical staff as they would know, they had done everything they could but unfortunately their pregnancy was no longer in it's naturally safe state.Michellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-54124172814493744442011-06-05T03:30:04.609-04:002011-06-05T03:30:04.609-04:00And, you know, if random women didn't declare ...And, you know, if random women didn't declare their consent invalid after something *did* go wrong, docs just might be more willing to go along with your riskier ideas. One of the more annoying parts of your "trust birth" idiocy is that you want to refuse all the stuff that might let you know something is going wrong, show up at the hospital with you and the baby in distress, and then bitch blue murder about teh evil docs who couldn't pull one more rabbit out of the hat and save your ass, your baby and your uterus. <br /><br />Does it not cross your mind that docs don't like losing babies, and don't like being sued---because in order to be sued, there has to be a bad outcome? And a bad outcome is a dead or injured baby? Midwives have no insurance, little training and less accountability.fuzzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-51675165615370471182011-06-03T21:39:11.993-04:002011-06-03T21:39:11.993-04:00at the virtual midwives day conference I did a tal...at the virtual midwives day conference I did a talk on ethics in midwifery and the 5 principles of ethics. I tried to turn it into simple practice so midwives can understand everyday how they go against these simple principles to protect themselves. There are many doctors and midwives who don't really get automony, or do no harm. They work to the moral that it is better to be safe than sorry and it's better the devil you know.Lisa Barretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161928233695371911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-67206549467547141242011-06-02T19:33:58.635-04:002011-06-02T19:33:58.635-04:00I love this post. I do not understand the way doct...I love this post. I do not understand the way doctors treat women when it comes to maternity care. If you are a cancer patient, you are given the choice of treatments (if any) you want to take. As an expecting mother, we are told to stand in line, and go through the system, period. Thank you for your informative and to-the-point posts.Samanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18344327169147258984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-84280648663934309782011-06-01T17:22:36.617-04:002011-06-01T17:22:36.617-04:00"Non-maleficance"?"Non-maleficance"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-13877939030017376352011-06-01T14:22:25.976-04:002011-06-01T14:22:25.976-04:00I am an ICAN chapter leader. I am going to start ...I am an ICAN chapter leader. I am going to start handing this out. Thanks for passing this on!Robynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190424982007854792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-61161728502466115342011-05-31T22:51:37.704-04:002011-05-31T22:51:37.704-04:00It is refreshing to hear a doctor fight for the ri...It is refreshing to hear a doctor fight for the right for a woman to choose. I never understood why it was so hard for doctors to allow women to make those choices.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08774138114705555836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20642800.post-33340454728012549422011-05-31T20:59:53.609-04:002011-05-31T20:59:53.609-04:00When I was pregnant with #3 my husband was in law ...When I was pregnant with #3 my husband was in law school, and I read my OB the riot act! lol, Got pretty high and might with the law stuff-it felt quite empowering to know exactly what my rights REALLY were! I think she was pretty taken back!<br /><br />Having delivered in Canada and in the US, hands down would prefer to deliver in Canada!!Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12339237996948410068noreply@blogger.com